From Alex Epstein: “Recently I was having dinner with Peter Thiel (the billionaire investor/entrepreneur who founded PayPal and Palantir) and he raised some interesting challenges to my book Fossil Future (which he has enthusiastically endorsed). I suggested, ‘Let’s record a discussion where you give me all your challenges to Fossil Future and I try to answer them.’ Peter loved the idea, so we made it happen—recording a 90-minute discussion at his office in West Hollywood. “We also ended up covering many other issues (sometimes agreeing, sometimes disagreeing) including:

  • Ayn Rand
  • Nuclear energy
  • Why we both oppose the “Effective Altruism” movement
  • What we can learn from Elon Musk about how to create a vision
  • My strategy for Energy Talking Points
  • How to create political change”

“I hope people enjoy this unique discussion. It isn’t an interview or a debate or a panel, it’s a genuine discussion, including some spirited arguments—that almost exactly resembles how Peter and I discuss and argue when there is no camera.”

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